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Can i give a checkmate with a pawn?

 
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ferleo



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PostPosted: Thu Jan 15, 2009 2:35 pm    Post subject: Can i give a checkmate with a pawn? Reply with quote

Hey, I try in all my games never give a checkmate with a pawn. I suppost is a rule in shogi, can you give a checkmate with a pawn??
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oren



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PostPosted: Thu Jan 15, 2009 5:32 pm    Post subject: Re: Can i give a checkmate with a pawn? Reply with quote

ferleo wrote:
Hey, I try in all my games never give a checkmate with a pawn. I suppost is a rule in shogi, can you give a checkmate with a pawn??


You can't checkmate with a "pawn" drop.

You can however checkmate with a move on the board.
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ferleo



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PostPosted: Fri Jan 16, 2009 2:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks.

Well who knows, maybe i dont lost in byo-yomi trying to find a checkmate with out pawn.

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shogi4fun



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PostPosted: Tue Feb 24, 2009 7:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

ferleo wrote:
Thanks.

Well who knows, maybe i dont lost in byo-yomi trying to find a checkmate with out pawn.

Maybe then you would have found the winning move: B*5d!
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Seikkon



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PostPosted: Tue Feb 24, 2009 4:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm searching for a while but I can't find any tsume.
Does someone find a solution ?
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shogi4fun



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PostPosted: Wed Feb 25, 2009 12:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Seikkon wrote:
I'm searching for a while but I can't find any tsume.
Does someone find a solution ?

As I told: B*5d!

Where is the problem?

For example:
B*5d! K5b +R3b G*4b S*6c! ...
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adrianwoo



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PostPosted: Wed Feb 25, 2009 5:00 pm    Post subject: adrian Reply with quote

It looks as a mate in 15

G5d

1 .... K5b, R4c+ if K6a. R4a+ G*5a, S*7b G7b, G7b mate if K5a, S*4b K6a, B7b G7b, G7b K7b, R5b+ N*6b, G*6c K8b, R6b+ S*7b, R7b+ mate

2 K7d S*7e, K8e f8, Kd9 e9
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adrianwoo



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PostPosted: Wed Feb 25, 2009 5:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

or maybe not mate in 15 becouse S6c is a shorter way if G6c then B4c
If K 6a then S6b+
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shogi4fun



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PostPosted: Fri Feb 27, 2009 6:54 am    Post subject: Re: adrian Reply with quote

adrianwoo wrote:

G5d

It's not a possible move from the diagram position.
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adrianwoo



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PostPosted: Fri Feb 27, 2009 8:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I mean B5d :P misclick ;)
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shogi4fun



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PostPosted: Fri Feb 27, 2009 10:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

adrianwoo wrote:
I mean B5d :P misclick ;)

Ah, now I understand.
adrianwoo wrote:
It looks as a mate in 15

It's a mate in 11.
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B5d

1 .... K5b, R4c+ ...

The rook is already promoted, so +R3b is possible - and it's faster.
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