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ferleo
Joined: 11 Dec 2008 Posts: 32
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Posted: Thu Jan 15, 2009 2:35 pm Post subject: Can i give a checkmate with a pawn? |
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| Hey, I try in all my games never give a checkmate with a pawn. I suppost is a rule in shogi, can you give a checkmate with a pawn?? |
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oren
Joined: 09 Nov 2008 Posts: 6 Location: Kent, WA
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Posted: Thu Jan 15, 2009 5:32 pm Post subject: Re: Can i give a checkmate with a pawn? |
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| ferleo wrote: | | Hey, I try in all my games never give a checkmate with a pawn. I suppost is a rule in shogi, can you give a checkmate with a pawn?? |
You can't checkmate with a "pawn" drop.
You can however checkmate with a move on the board. |
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ferleo
Joined: 11 Dec 2008 Posts: 32
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Posted: Fri Jan 16, 2009 2:18 pm Post subject: |
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Thanks.
Well who knows, maybe i dont lost in byo-yomi trying to find a checkmate with out pawn.
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shogi4fun
Joined: 08 Jan 2009 Posts: 10
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Posted: Tue Feb 24, 2009 7:17 am Post subject: |
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| ferleo wrote: | Thanks.
Well who knows, maybe i dont lost in byo-yomi trying to find a checkmate with out pawn. |
Maybe then you would have found the winning move: B*5d!
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Seikkon
Joined: 19 Jan 2008 Posts: 17 Location: France
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Posted: Tue Feb 24, 2009 4:46 pm Post subject: |
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I'm searching for a while but I can't find any tsume.
Does someone find a solution ? |
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shogi4fun
Joined: 08 Jan 2009 Posts: 10
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Posted: Wed Feb 25, 2009 12:47 pm Post subject: |
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| Seikkon wrote: | I'm searching for a while but I can't find any tsume.
Does someone find a solution ? |
As I told: B*5d!
Where is the problem?
For example:
B*5d! K5b +R3b G*4b S*6c! ... |
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adrianwoo
Joined: 05 Jan 2008 Posts: 188 Location: Poland
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Posted: Wed Feb 25, 2009 5:00 pm Post subject: adrian |
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It looks as a mate in 15
G5d
1 .... K5b, R4c+ if K6a. R4a+ G*5a, S*7b G7b, G7b mate if K5a, S*4b K6a, B7b G7b, G7b K7b, R5b+ N*6b, G*6c K8b, R6b+ S*7b, R7b+ mate
2 K7d S*7e, K8e f8, Kd9 e9 |
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adrianwoo
Joined: 05 Jan 2008 Posts: 188 Location: Poland
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Posted: Wed Feb 25, 2009 5:04 pm Post subject: |
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or maybe not mate in 15 becouse S6c is a shorter way if G6c then B4c
If K 6a then S6b+ |
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shogi4fun
Joined: 08 Jan 2009 Posts: 10
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Posted: Fri Feb 27, 2009 6:54 am Post subject: Re: adrian |
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It's not a possible move from the diagram position. |
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adrianwoo
Joined: 05 Jan 2008 Posts: 188 Location: Poland
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Posted: Fri Feb 27, 2009 8:07 am Post subject: |
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| I mean B5d :P misclick ;) |
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shogi4fun
Joined: 08 Jan 2009 Posts: 10
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Posted: Fri Feb 27, 2009 10:29 am Post subject: |
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| adrianwoo wrote: | | I mean B5d :P misclick ;) |
Ah, now I understand.
| adrianwoo wrote: | | It looks as a mate in 15 |
It's a mate in 11.
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B5d
1 .... K5b, R4c+ ... |
The rook is already promoted, so +R3b is possible - and it's faster. |
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